. >> you heard the president talk about nate and cleo pendleton, the guests of first lady michelle obama and they're with us this morning. what was is like to hear him talk about your daughter that way? it must just rip your heart out honestly. >> yeah t does because it's all so fresh. it's an honor that he would be speaking of my child, it's unfortunate, the circumstances to talk about her in, so. >> how are you guys holding up? you're going through something i think absolutely no parent could imagine surviving, honestly. >> day by day. >> yes. >> day by day. >> hour by hour. yes. >> does it help at all to be focused on the gun control issue? do you feel like you're doing something? >> yes, and i feel like talking about her and getting the word out and becoming more involved with, you know, the issue is empowering, so to speak. it helps. >> you know that it's very unlikely that they will pass legislation that would ban assault weapons. people talk about, but the reality is, most people think that would not happen. how do you feel about getting into this debate? do you think that's criti